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Re: Bambi (1942)
| | Added by John on 2005-02-28 16:21:33 |
Haha I agree 100%, good point about Bambi's gender too - I've always felt a sequel examining his realization that he is homosexual would have made for a good flick. Divorcing his "wife" and having a sex change operation performed by Thumper or something. It would be better than this. At the end he could gallop away with another buck and it would be a great way for Disney to continue their fascination with inserting vague gay references into children's entertainment. (Just check out the fruity character from Lilo & Stitch - aye yay yaye!)
I bet you can tell I don't like Disney cartoons very much.
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Re-Think Your Critique
| | Added by Bobby on 2005-03-01 06:20:52 |
This movie was based on an idea... How man is interfering with animal life, inlcuding the burning down of a forest. There are simply two parts in the movie. Animal life without Man interfering and Animal life with Man interfering. If you didn't notice, those animals were much happier with Man not shooting them and setting fire (accidentally, which would never happen if they weren't there hunting them) to their forest home. I'm not exactly why or how you can bring up Bambi being a male or saying he's a homosexual. This is pretty much the dumbest review I've ever read. Why don't you re-write your review and actually critique the film's aspects and not give us your overall biased on what's "cool" and "not cool" to you.
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Re: Bambi (1942)
| | Added by John on 2005-03-02 15:28:47 |
>>Why don't you re-write your review and actually critique the film's aspects and not give us your overall biased on what's "cool" and "not cool" to you.
I thought James expressed how he felt about the film itself. It's short. It has no plot. The characters are uninteresting. The morals are heavy-handed. (According to his review.)
Not everyone will agree but I'd say those are all aspects of the film he's discussing.
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Bambi is the-I repeat the best Disney animated film of all time!
| | Added by Justin (email) on 2005-03-02 21:01:06 |
You, sir, are a disgrace to critics everywhere. The film's plot is clear and evident, the characters are memorable and lovable, the directing is top notch, the music is inspiring, and the film is intensely moving. I don't give a crap what your wife says, this movie is not just Disney's best animated film, it is the world's best animated film! That's right! The best animated film ever made!
no offense
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Ugh.
| | Added by Mario on 2005-03-02 21:17:27 |
You and Johnboy here just don't get it. Bambi is the anti-thesis of today's modern Disney, where everything has to be anachronistic pop culture jokes and overblown Broadway numbers. Bambi is humorous because the characters are allowed to do their own things at their own pace. But more importantly it's a coming-of-age story, one of the most heartwarming and heartbreaking I've ever seen. The characters are endearing, and the music is carefully integrated, instead of shoehorned in like what we got from The Little Mermaid onward. Bambi is a work of art right down to its very fiber. Nothing ever happens? Try paying attention. And what does Bambi's gender have anything to do with anything? Shame on you, picking on his gender and on this masterpiece that TV Guide rightly gives 5 stars out of 5. It ranks with all the masterpieces like Snow White and Godfather. But then again, I've known people who didn't like Citizen Kane. But give me Bambi over that sugary sweet The Little Mermaid any day of the week.
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why?
| | Added by Dee on 2005-03-06 11:36:49 |
Why should I care what your wife thinks about this film? I really could care less.
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Because . . .
| | Added by James O'Ehley (email, web) on 2005-03-07 03:54:49 |
Because my wife has excellent taste . . especially in husbands. :)
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Cynical, cynical, cynical...
| | Added by Joe Jarvis on 2005-03-11 13:19:59 |
That review was pretty mean (yet also rather funny). I can see where you're coming from when reading the review. I'm a fan of Disney animation, especially the older films, but I've got to admit when compared to the other classic animated films from the forties and fifties (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Pinocchio etc), "Bambi" is the weakest. And I agree that the film does feel a bit aimless; to tell the truth, "Alice in Wonderland" has a far superior plot to "Bambi", and that's as episodic as films get.
Interesting that you didn't notice that Flower the Skunk, despite acting like a girl, is a male skunk. Hmmm... ;)
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Re: Bambi (1942)
| | Added by John on 2005-03-12 16:03:01 |
Joe, are you the "Big Joe" who sent me a private message on IMDb? I'm about to respond to it. I thought it was odd you mentioned MG, but I remembered there was another Joe who wrote for the site...and then it clicked.
As for "Alice in Wonderland", three words - read the book. The movie might have had a good plot, but the book blows it out of the water. It's hardly children's entertainment. It's great stuff. Lewis Carroll is a brilliant writer. I don't know if the rumors of him being on opium while he was writing it are truthful but there's a lot of deep subtext in that book - it's really layered, touching on human identity (the growing and shrinking are supposedly allusions to psychological awareness blah blah blah). It's so weird and f****-up, it would make a great serious adaptation - it's been done before (remember that made-for-TV movie?) but I'm thinking someone like Tim Burton would be able to do it real justice.
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Yes, this is Big joe.
| | Added by Joe Jarvis on 2005-03-13 06:15:32 |
Yeah, I have read the original books for "Alice" numerous times and they are excellent and better than some of the kid's books of modern days. In my opinion, there are only a few film adaptations that have done justice to the book (the 1985 TV movie, the Disney classic, the Hallmark version), and the one with Fiona Fullerton in was just stupid (it was basicly "The Wizard of Oz" in style, only this time, Lewis Carroll got the treatment and unfortunately not in a good way like "Oz"). I've always wanted to see Tim Burton do an adaptation of "Alice", but I'm worried that it may turn into an annoying plop-fest like "Lemony Snicket" did (I know that wasn't Burton, but it did have a similar visual style).
Interesting we're all talking about "Alice in Wonderland" when we should be talking about "Bambi"...
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Did you really understand the Movie?
| | Added by C. Corleis (web) on 2005-04-01 13:16:05 |
Bambi has no plot?? What do you exprect? A clearly defined Hero, a clearly defined Villain a clearly defined goal and the whole rest of what you will find in over 99% of all movies?
The plot of Bambi is the oldest, essential plot of the world: Grew up! Learn! Survive! Mate! Live! It�s so simple. So simple that every child will understand it. But i forgot that you wrote, you haven�t seen the Movie as you was a child... so it seems that you now only able to "watch" it, and not to feel it!
Best Wishes from ol germany :-)
Carsten
P.S. About the apparent ridiculous name "Bambi"... did you know, that the real Name of the Hero called "Hawkeye" in James Fenimore Coopers classic Book "Last of the Mohicans" was Natty Bumpoo..?? :-)
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Hmmm...
| | Added by Joe Jarvis on 2005-04-03 17:07:52 |
Natty Bumpoo, I like that name. ;)
I think that the reason people at the moment are giving mega praises to this movie is because the DVD came out last month on a special edition. Registering the idea that something is "special", many people seem to like it. I bet if really unbeloved Disney films such as "The Black Cauldron" and "Atlantis" came out labeled as Special Editions, everyone would worship those movies. I'm actually happy to see people are viewing a movie regardless of what it is labeled.
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Re: Bambi (1942)
| | Added by Obsidian (email) on 2009-05-26 14:07:08 |
I do admit that Bambi is, at times, too sugary for its own good. Why do all animals need to have long fluttering eyelashes? Why do all animals have to look cute and unmenacing - except for the hunter hounds who look like Cerberus'spawn or something?
Nonetheless, the movie IS a masterpiece. Just the wonderful quality of the animations is a pleasure to look at: often the characters move just like the animals they're supposed to be. The colours and their symbolical use is very charming, too.
And I need add nothing more, as I see other comments before mine have already expressed what I think is wrong in your review: it's extremely silly to criticize a children's cartoon by making remarks that question the protagonist's gender or virility (as if kids even care about these things!); it's very wrong to criticize the supposed "lack of plot" (Bambi's plot is basically life)....
You wanted to criticize Bambi? You wanted to make sexist remarks about its characters? Then do criticize how the female characters appear only with the role of wife or mother, and have no independent role or even a defined personality, unlike the male characters. That's Bambi one and only fault, yet no one seems to notice that.
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